Repurposing Bindings Not A Good Idea.

A Question From Reader Mike Goldman:

I have the Marker IPT Wideride bindings mounted on a pair of Vokyl RTM 80. Can these bindings be re-mounted and used on something like a Nordica Soul Rider 97?  Thanks.

Response From Jackson Hogan, ski industry veteran and publisher of realskiers.com.

My answer to Mike is no. System skis usually have a unique hole pattern on the binding interface and may have other compatibility issues with a ski that is not its mate. It’s generally not possible to transfer a system binding to a non-system ski. Also, I would not devalue a new ski by mounting it with an old binding if I could avoid it. 

 

9 Comments

  1. Avatar Denny Coates says:

    I learned the hard way about using old bindings! I was skiing along, having a wonderful day, when suddenly I found myself trying to get up after losing a ski! Usually, If I fall, I know why! What happened? The bindings broke! Lesson learned!

  2. Avatar Rich Spritz says:

    I think there’s a bit more to be said on this topic. First, I’m an instructor at Breck, so I may be biased in that I get deep discounts on equipment. That said, many ski shops won’t work on bindings over 10 years old because of the high rate of binding failure (parts wear, spring stretch, etc.) and consequent liability. Think that’s total BS meant to sell more bindings? I did. Until I re-used a set of Look bindings pushing 10 years old, noticed that that one toe occasionally released a bit strangely, and wound up with an MCL tear when that same thing happened the day before I was scheduled to go heli-skiing. IMO it’s not worth it to push old bindings; they are the cheapest component of the essential boot-binding-ski unit.

  3. I’m hoping the extremely redoubtable Mr. Jackson Hogan might be able to give a followup reply to this question: If an “old binding” were to mounted on a compatible “new ski”, would that still be “devaluing” the new ski, if the binding was, let’s say, only about 2 years old and in seemingly perfect working condition? If yes, please explain how or why that devalues the new ski. Thanks!

  4. Avatar Jack Shipley says:

    Jackson Hogan’s recommendation not to re-use old ski bindings is good and valid, but only for specific, fairly technical modern alpine bindings. It is not true, however, across the board, and definitely not for backcountry skis and bindings. I am right now getting set to re-use a pair of 45-year-old Swedish “ABC Victory” cable bindings on a brand-new pair of Madshus Annum backcountry skis. The only modification they’ll need is a new set of cables, made to just the right length at the neighborhood hardware store. So old gear still has usefulness in simple, lightweight applications.

  5. Avatar David Hoffman says:

    Jack talked about his old back country bindings but on system or non system bindings, retail ski shops get a list each year listing those ski bindings are ‘indemnified’ for the current ski year. These shops are advised not to work on any ski with bindings not on that list. Those not on the list are normally bindings that are over 10 years old.

  6. Avatar Steven Seely says:

    The insurance industry has decreed a 6 year old binding is a liability not covered. Most shops will not adjust bindings over 6 years old. Get rid of them and ave your knees/ankles!

  7. Avatar James Davis says:

    Ok I fully understand the mechanical aspect of old bindings, but what about the skis underneath. I have several pair of older skis in excellent visual condition that I like to use occasionally. How many times is it safe to put on new bindings?

  8. I’ve ripped bindings right out of skis twice now but it was back in the late 60’s when I raced in high school. We used to screw them down so they would not easily release on a course. Not smart, but I was a teen. My coaches should have known better though. My understanding is that a shop’s policy is dictated by their insurance carrier. I doubt the insurance companies want to sell more skis but they live or die by predicting risk. Pretty sure the age limit on bindings is based on injury data.

  9. I would generally agree with Jackson Hogen’s (note spelling) advice. There are too many exceptions to the rules to be specific, but with so many skis sold today as part of systems and special bindings for wider skis using old bindings can be tricky at best. That being said, going from a race ski to a race ski of the same brand and a matching binding would probably be okay, but it would still depend on the age and condition of the binding and you might better off to swap the entire package. Take your set up to the shop and get the facts. If the binding is no longer indemnifed by the insurance company no shop is going to work on it. Be wary of old bindings.

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